[Miata] racing harness

[Larry Alster]

If a 4 point harness is no good on the track because it would ride up off your hips, why would using it on the street make it any less dangerous???

Sit in a car sometime and hookup the belts without the crotch strap and then tighten the shoulder belts and see what happens.

Your right about the seat type too but my main concern was he asked about a belt and I rather not see him buying a 4 point.


Larry
 
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ygpz4re at hotmail.com 
  To: Bryan Wyatt ; Miata List 
  Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [Miata] racing harness


  All those are good choices, but I think the most obvious question(s) have been missed (unless I missed the start of this threat - I often only seem to get them in mid-stream).
   
  What does he need the harness for?  Racing?  Tracking?  Autocrossing?  Street use only?  If racing, then I would agree w/ Larry's comments about 4 vs 5/6 point harnesses.  If only tracking, autocrossing, or street use, I would think a properly installed 4 point would be fine.
   
  A larger concern to me would be the seat used w/ any harness.  For a harness to work properly, it should pass through openings in the seat - otherwise, in a frontal impact, the harness could slip off your shoulders, possibly dislocating both of them in the process, and providing no real protection.

  George P.
  '04 VR MSM - street use only (well, one autocross), and "factory 3 point harness"


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    Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:52:41 -0700
    From: bryanewyatt at yahoo.com
    To: miata at realbig.com
    Subject: Re: [Miata] racing harness


    G-Force!  I knew I forgot a brand, lol...

    In all seriousness, I can't really tell you which one is better.  I just thought I'd give you lots of choices :-)

    -Bryan

    Larry Alster <Larry at Miata.net> wrote:
      Most brands are fine.  If your looking for a "name" you're asking the wrong guy since I'm into what works what's not cool.

      If you want a good harness at a good price I use the G Force units and I deal with Ron at

      http://discoveryparts.com/

      http://www.discoveryparts.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?cart_id87614013.181&product=harness_gforce_caml


      Larry
       
      White Knight      1991 Crystal White   #99 CSP
      Silver Bullet        1992 Silverstone     #17 SM2  FM I+ Turbo
      Honey B             1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L  JR Supercharger
      Whooosh           2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5
       
      LowCountry Miata  http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net
      Masters Miata
      RAGS 074
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Luke Zyla 
        To: Larry Alster ; Miata List 
        Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:41 AM
        Subject: Re: [Miata] racing harness


        Dear Larry,
        OK, I didn't know that.  Thanks for the heads up.  So, what brand do you recommend and where is a good place to find them?
        Luke Zyla
        99 red"Ranger"
        42cs

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Larry Alster 
          To: Luke Zyla ; Miata List 
          Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 8:29 AM
          Subject: Re: [Miata] racing harness


          Yea

          The suggestion is don't

          4 points are dangerous in that they can ride up off your hips and in a crash you can have problems.  You need/want a 5 or 6 point harness.

          No good track event will allow you to use a 4 point, PCA bans them.


          Larry
           
          White Knight      1991 Crystal White   #99 CSP
          Silver Bullet        1992 Silverstone     #17 SM2  FM I+ Turbo
          Honey B             1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L  JR Supercharger
          Whooosh           2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5
           
          LowCountry Miata  http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net
          Masters Miata
          RAGS 074
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Luke Zyla 
            To: Miata List 
            Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 7:44 AM
            Subject: [Miata] racing harness


            I am shopping for a 4-point racing harness that will work with my Boss Frog Double Hoop roll bar.  Any suggestions?

            Luke Zyla
            99 red "Ranger"
            42cs

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