[DeTomaso] ansa guts

Mon Mar 12 11:36:08 CDT 2007

All,

NOT PARTED.....PARKED!!!

Sorry about that...its early in Las Vegas this
morning!

Jim
--- Jim Wallace <pantera_4220 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> If you look at the Pantera of New England Web site
> under "Big Pipes" you will see what I did to my Ansa
> Mufflers as well as the addition to Pat Micals
> headers
> and mid pipes.  I have yet to Dyno the car as I
> reshaped my right front fender going to Pocono last
> year, then I parted the car.  I have the before
> Dyno,
> but this spring I will get the after numbers and
> post
> them.  I can tell you from the seat of my pants it
> was
> 40-50 more horses and the RPM's used to stop at 5300
> and now go to 6500 no problem.
> 
> www.panteraownersnewengland.com
> 
> 
> Jim
> --- Will Kooiman <wkooiman at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> > I remember your peak was 347, mine was 342, JT was
> > next.
> > 
> > I believe JT had the highest torque numbers.  His
> HP
> > tapered off with
> > flutters in the curve (valvetrain).
> > 
> > Jim Narum had a fuel delivery problem.  His car
> > leaned out when you leaned
> > on it.
> > 
> > Will.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> > [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] On
> > Behalf Of Gray Gregory
> > Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:50 AM
> > To: John Taphorn; David_Bell at oxy.com;
> > detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ansa guts
> > 
> > Ok I'm chiming in... My car does have Hall's GTS
> > exhaust sys. I always
> > assumed it was stock, but if Gary says he modifies
> > them then there you
> > go. 
> > 
> > I also seem to remember my car made more hp than
> > everyone else's, but
> > nobody seems to be mentioning that. :>))
> > 
> > Gray
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
> > [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
> > On Behalf Of John Taphorn
> > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:25 AM
> > To: David_Bell at oxy.com; detomaso at realbig.com
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ansa guts
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > Ideally, Gray will chime in and set the record
> > straight.  Your yarn is 
> > pretty convincing though. Of course, I pulled the
> > data from our Dyno Day
> > 
> > spreadsheet.  We didn't qualify Gray's exhaust as
> > other than stock and I
> > 
> > seem to recall surprise at the high end numbers. 
> > You car's gutted Ansa 
> > results were similar to mine.
> > 
> > JT
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <David_Bell at oxy.com>
> > To: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 11:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] ansa guts
> > 
> > 
> > > My memory of the sound measurement exercise
> during
> > the dyno day is
> > > slightly different - though occasionally I've
> been
> > known to completely
> > > disremember things so you can't necessarily take
> > this to the bank.
> > But
> > > I 'think' that the 'stock' GTS exhaust in JT's
> > table was actually a
> > > remanufactured system that Gray Gregory bought
> > from Gary Hall.  I
> > talked
> > > to Gary at TWS one year when he brought out his
> > grabber blue 'POPCAL'
> > > car to run at the track.  I liked the POPCAL
> sound
> > so much that I
> > asked
> > > Gary about it.  He told me that the GTS exhaust
> > systems he sold were
> > > stockish Ansa mufflers that had been gutted and
> > put back together.  I
> > > wasn't sure exactly what he meant by 'gutted',
> but
> > at any rate that's
> > > where I got the idea to try it on my car.  I
> ended
> > up getting some
> > more
> > > details from Tony DiGiovana, who'd actually done
> > it to his car, before
> > I
> > > pulled out the die grinder and chopped mine up.
> > >
> > > Anyway....the stock GTS exhaust measurement may
> > actually not be
> > 'stock'.
> > > My ear tells me that at WOT the gutted mufflers
> > are significantly
> > louder
> > > than before the surgery.  But at idle and normal
> > driving they are
> > maybe
> > > only slightly louder, but have a meaner sounding
> > growl (whatever that
> > > means).
> > >
> > > YMMV
> > >
> > > Dave Bell (was bored in Abu-Dhabi, currently
> bored
> > in Oman, soon to be
> > > bored in Qatar)
> > >
> >
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > Garth I do not have a sound clip. The exhaust
> > noise is throatier and
> > > only slightly louder. The modification helps
> > minimize the chirping
> > noise
> > > often heard with the GTS. Space City Panteras
> > measured sound levels at
> > > idle and full throttle for various exhaust
> > systems.
> > > A sample follows -Idle/Wide open in db
> > > Gutted GTS 94/118
> > > GTS 84/119
> > > Big Bore 93/121
> > > Magna Flow 89/120
> > > Mindtrain 98/122
> > > The measured sound level difference between a
> > gutted and stock GTS was
> > > insignificant; although, it seems louder
> > subjectively.
> > >
> > > JT
> > >
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