[DeTomaso] (no subject)

[SEL]

Thanks Barry - would you (or anyone else) be able to recommend a "Knowledgeable Pantera Person" who could help me with an inspection - the car is in the Manhattan, NY area - thanks!!


----- Original Message ----
From: B. Seib <oldwheel at mts.net>
To: SEL <edlebby at yahoo.com>; 
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 7:51:29 PM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] (no subject)


You will find that many Pantera owners DESPISE originality, although there
are a few of us who do care and are curious about it. The argument over
whether it has any effect on value is endless. Don't even go there. Buy what
YOU want. Just make sure it's not seriously rusty or otherwise compromised.
If you can get a knowlegable Pantera owner to help you look it over, it may
save you a fortune down the road.


-- It is a pre-L car, although it appears that the small chrome part-bumpers
have been painted to match the body color (is that factory or someone did
that later?)
>>>Car has definitely been totally repainted. The black on the lower portion
is not done like original was. Someone has painted the bumpers black. They
were chrome when new.

- the car is listed as a "1972 Pantera" - no other model number is given -
was there only one model for 1972 - would features in the pix confirm this
is indeed a 1972?
>>>Looks like a 72 pre-L to me. VIN # would confirm that.

-- the wheels appear to be original the tires do not - are these the
original wheels for a 1972 - or are they from an earlier/later model?
>>>They are the original style Campagnolo wheels used in 72 but there are
several subtle differences in the wheels produced at different times. If
you're really picky, you need to have closer photos and do some more
research.

-- the upper-body looks to be in pretty good shape - there does not appear
to be cowl rust - i cannot see any other obvious bubbling low in fenders or
doors (but no close ups) - clearly lots of rust elsewhere, we'll come on to
that - what do you think, my eye is not that expert - danger signs? waves?
bubbles?
>>> This is where only a personal inspection by a Knowlegeable Pantera
Person will do.

-- is the body correct for 72 - correct fender flares, etc.? or has it been
modified?
>>> It looks fine to me

-- can you tell if the glass is original
>>>Yes, you can It's dated.

(by the way - how much does originality/numbers matching matter with these
cars - from what i have seen...not much...true?)
>>>You're probably right.


-- grill and hood vents correct for a 72?
>>> No Ford program car from 1971-74 originally had the "barbeque vents" in
the hood. Finding a hood without holes cut in it is probably getting harder.

-- square side view mirrors correct for a 72?
>>> Yes, the mirror is original. Others may argue that.

-- assume that is a radio antenna coming up through the right fender -
correct and right for the car?
>>>I'm going to pass on this one except to say I don't think the antenna was
installed  by the factory.

-- paint seems to be pretty good - is this an original color for 72?
>>>There was a blue available in 72 and this may be a reasonable match.

More later. Gotta go now.
Barry