Extra Virgin Re: [DeTomaso] oil

Wed Sep 27 10:10:03 EDT 2006

Personally I use recycled extra virgin olive oil. It's important to remember the heart of the De tomaso Pantera is the HV Melling oil pump. Functionally any oil will do but if you look closely at my Pantera at Silver State you  will see a, "Brazilian Recylced Extra Virgin Olive Race Oil" sponsorship sticker on both sides of the car.....hell it ain't a big sponsor but the oil just like the barrel of race gas the B-Girls gave us is free.  

  So forget about that expensive synthetic oil or anything belched up from a dinoseur.
  that says "RACE OIL" on it.....Okay so you'r only racing from the garage to 7-11 to pick up a 6-pack for the Bears game.... you still want to make sure you have the very best. Lets talk about filters now! Guys in SoCal are experts on this so I'll hand the microphone at this time to Team Pantera of Orange County.

  MD     

pantdino at aol.com wrote:
  The oil analysis tells you a LOT about your engine, and its another good reason to have it done. If they find fuel or antifreeze in the oil you've got a problem. Likewise silicon (leaky air filter or unfiltered air entering engine). And so on. So for $20 you know your engine has no mechanical problems and most likely that you don't have to change your oil yet. (Blackstone labs charges $10 for the Base Number, which is optional.) 

There's really no question that the "analyze it and change according to what you find" system makes most sense. Changing oil without it is like adjusting your tire pressures based on how they look rather than with a gauge. How many of us would do that?

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From: kenn_green at yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] oil

I think the oil analysis also tells you something about your engine. I always wondered about the time parameter on oil changes. I suspected it assumed a worst case with a lot of short trips with the engine being started and stopped a lot. If you're driving 3,000 miles a year but most the miles are once a month weeked drive, I'd guess the oil would last a long time. I have assumed that most the gunk in a healthly engine is actually from the oil, basically oxydation products, and that doesn't happen with a synthetic. Alternatively, if your oil is getting dirty from blowby, the synthetic will get just as dirty as dino oil. Based on that, I think that if they synthetic looks good, you probably can run it for 10K miles and it will do do a good job. If it looks dirty quickly, you probably have blowby getting into the oil, and might as well use good dino oil. So far, I've had great results from synthetics, and would never go back to dino oil. I also don't like the few seconds
 after an oil change with low pressure, so half the oil changes with a synthetic means half the low pressure events. Ken 

pantdino at aol.com wrote: Let's see. Assuming you change your oil every 6 months and you have a 10 qt oil pan, you will be spending $100 a year on oil PER YEAR. Once you know how long your oil is actually good for (likely 18mos or more) you can change it based on that forever unless your pattern of car use changes. So you'll most likely save at least $100 PER YEAR and the time and trouble of the oil change and of taking it to the recycling site.

For some people who use their cars as daily drivers or track racers, every 6 mos oil change may actually make sense. For most people it's just a ridiculous waste of time and money.

Just my opinion.

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pantdino at aol.com wrote: 

> For $30 you can get your oil analyzed including Total Base Number, > which tells you how the additive package is doing. I use Blackstone 

For the same price, you can just change the oil and not worry about it. 

I did my car yesterday; 5 quarts of synthetic at $5/quart, plus a filter. 

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