[DeTomaso] Hydraulics for Pantera - Dark Depression Sets in afterSilver State

[Mad Dog Antenucci]

Pat,
  Thanks for weighing in on the rubber bushing  movement. We appreciate your  knowledge and experience setting up race Pantera's the right way....Okay, let me know the next time you are visiting the left coast. Would love to have you visit. If thats not possible we'll see ya in Vegas in April.
  YOU da Man,
   
  Dawg

Patrick Mical <pmical at patsauto.com> wrote:
  Hi All ; The stock cars that had no shims between the Rack and the Body had
very bad toe Out. The cars that had shims had bad toe Out. Now add the
Rubber Bushing movement too the Control Arms and the bump steer gets even
worst. I have setup more Panteras then All of the Vendersput together .When
Walther bourgh the Group 4 pantera I could not beleave how bad that car was
setup. Walther couldnot beleave it too, even the brakes were not Adj.
wright. So my point is that the pantera with a little of work the car handle
Great. Talk too people who have had the car setup. Rember you have to give
up something to get something. Patrick.Thank you All.
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Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hydraulics for Pantera - Dark Depression Sets in
afterSilver State


> In a message dated 9/22/06 9:39:47 AM, cengles at cox.net writes:
>
> << Dumb question: is the toe-out phenomenon minimized with big positive
> caster settings? >>
>
> Don't think so. Caster is simply the angle the spindle is tipped back
towards
> the cabin while camber is the amount of angle the spindle is tipped in
toward
> the center of the front end. Toe-in (or -out) is the change in the
> straight-ahead angle of the tires with suspension movement. Due to complex
geometry- the
> steering rods & a-arms are all bolted together so when they move in a
bump,
> all move thru different angles which pushes or pulls on the wheels. The
only
> thing I've found to make things better is to change the rack position to
> mimimize the effect, and the exact amount needed varies with each car.
This is in
> fact, 'bump-steering correction' and interestingly, the factory lowered
all the
> GR-3, GR-4/GT-4 racks, as well as all late production racks in mid-1973
with
> shim p/n 03033-A & correspondingly longer rack bolts. But the 'std' 10mm
spacer
> may not be optimum for your car today. You just gotta spend a Saturday
> checking- subframe sag/twist affects all the cars slightly diferently.
Good luck- J
> DeRyke
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