[DeTomaso] Hydraulics for Pantera - Dark Depression Sets inafterSilver ...

Mad Dog Antenucci teampantera at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 22 17:32:41 EDT 2006


Right now the best system I have seen is what Dick Koch sent me....I may not be able to afford it but the (Dick Anderson) shock system is damn impressive....Plan B is to go with Garth and DickD's feedback on progressive springs and shocks with longer shaft and some additional mods to suspension. Will have more feedback in next coup;le weeks
   
  md 

Tomas Gunnarsson <guson at home.se> wrote:
  Yes, but nothing in the article conflicts with my thinking. Big air bag volume->low spring rate, small air bag volume->high spring rate.

Tomas
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From: "Mad Dog Antenucci" 
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Sent: den 22 september 2006 00:26
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hydraulics for Pantera - Dark Depression Sets inafterSilver ...


> Tomas,
> Did you see JohnH';s post on Praxis air based system?
> 
> md
> 
> Tomas Gunnarsson wrote:
> My understanding is that with a given air bag you can't change spring rate without changing ride height.
> 
> Tomas
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> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Hydraulics for Pantera - Dark Depression Sets in afterSilver ...
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> 
> > Hi MD!!!!
> > 
> > I already came up with a performance yet luxury solution for the patnera for 
> > myself. 
> > 
> > My new suspension setup would have coil overs to replace the stock ones but 
> > i'll have "air bags" either.. sitting on top of the whole coil over unit or.. 
> > replacing the spring. If I replac the spring with the air bag, I can vary the 
> > spring rate just by increasing or decreasing the air pressure.
> > 
> > Now that's the general concept of it.. it's better then using hydraulics, 
> > and all it would need is a 12v air compressor you can mount in the front, a 
> > tank, and some air lines and that's it.
> > 
> > For the convinence wise like on luxury sports vehicle, you can raise up the 
> > front or lower it even more while your on the track and i'll incrase ur camber 
> > as well for better corning ability (well to a certain degree) as well.
> > 
> > Also, air suspension setup also doesn't emit those annoying ghetto sound 
> > when it release air so it's very "quiet" when it goes up and down.
> > 
> > Now... with that concept in hand, you can also built some nifty electronics 
> > which I waht I plan to do.. you can have a sensor with a lever on it like on 
> > my SL, and you can hook it up to a microchip or like a STAMP board unit.. 
> > and... well you can have it automatically lower a certain amount after a certain 
> > speed or.. over ride it with a flick of a switch to raise the rear or etc or 
> > anything. Now the electronics basically allow the air solenoid to stop 
> > filling or releasing air on each air bag so you could accurately... raise the car 
> > up 1 inch.. or 2 inch.. or drop it the same amount. Hook it up to your VSS 
> > (vehicle speed senor) if you have one.. or make your own and.. yea it'll adjust 
> > by itself or smoething for performance usage.. well the idea is kind of 
> > endless but I think you get my point MD :)
> > 
> > You also wouldn't want the rear end of your car to jump up so abruptly when 
> > your traveling over 100 mph.. or you might lose the rear end as well. You can 
> > easily allow air to go into each cylinder slowly so it raises up and down 
> > slowly and not so sudden. :)
> > 
> > Best Regards,
> > Larry
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