THE SILVER STATE REPORT.....RE: [DeTomaso] silver states
John Bentley (jab)
jab at cisco.com
Tue Sep 19 21:55:25 EDT 2006
Thanks JT,
I hit the dips at around 145 and with the combination of the cross wind,
it was interesting. I didn't bottom out, but I still have the original
spring spacers installed.
My car was squirrelly above about 120 this time. I think its because of
the new tires. With my old Michelin's it was stable all the way up past
150. I'm going to check the alignment. The front tires are exactly the
same size, so not sure what happened. Big pucker factor at speed.
For next year I'm going to add a front air dam, add some castor, and
check the alignment. Maybe add an oil cooler too! :) MD will love that
one.......
JB
-----Original Message-----
From: John Taphorn [mailto:jtaphorn at kingwoodcable.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:24 PM
To: Mad Dog Antenucci; John Bentley (jab); poemer at comcast.net;
detomaso at realbig.com
Cc: teampantera at yahoo.com
Subject: Re: THE SILVER STATE REPORT.....RE: [DeTomaso] silver states
MD & JB
Congrats guys, It is great to hear that you were recognized for extreme
performance. Your efforts make us all stand a little taller.
The dips pose an interesting challenge. Sounds like the magnitude came
as a
surprise to the participants. I'm glad everyone made it through safely.
What were your RPMs at 175MPH, peak oil temps and mods contemplated for
the
next go-round?
JB - How did your car feel at speed, any mods planned?
JT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mad Dog Antenucci" <teampantera at yahoo.com>
To: "John Bentley (jab)" <jab at cisco.com>; <poemer at comcast.net>;
<detomaso at realbig.com>
Cc: <teampantera at yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:27 AM
Subject: THE SILVER STATE REPORT.....RE: [DeTomaso] silver states
> ALL!
>
> Thanks again JB for being there (again)...Seeing you, Chuck and Larry
> made me feel pretty confident. Espially when my ignition fell out
> (bwahahaha) on Saturday right after we got everything else done to the
> car....still you were able to fix it!!!
>
> There's no "I" in team and even though there were only "2" Panteras
out
> of 130 entry's Team Pantera Racing still got picked as the "BEST
TURNED
> OUT TEAM"....There were 7 other official teams from Corvette to Viper
and
> I say official because we only had 2 Pantera's in Ely!!!!! But its a
> "People's Choice" award thing...and the people of Ely have spoken!!
;-]
> Seriously, it was a trip because a good 95% of the field were new or
late
> model show room stock Z06's, Vipers and GT40's. Several
Ferrari's....many
> high end exotics including a McClaren that had raced at Bonneville
still
> no one made 200 MPH Sunday.
>
> Okay, down to race day....26F Sunday morning at 6am, frost on the
> cars....but it warmed to 56F by 8AM. I was the 4th car off the
grid...In
> front of me was a Viper, followed by two Corvette Z06's and behind me
> were another Z06 and a race prepared Mustang Cobra....also in my same
> class were 3 "GT-40's", a Ferrari F-40 driven by veteran driver Rick
> Doria, an Ultima GTR, another 6 or so Corvettes and a couple more
> Vipers....a total of 26 entries in the Grand Sport Division (150
class).
> Some heavy-HEAVY metal. Kinna just felt right if you know what I
mean.
> Quiet unassuming Pantera and owner surrouned by high dollar machines!
> JUST WAY TOO COOL...
>
> So when the flag dropped I got a good tire smoking start fish tailing
> away from the start line....at the quarter mile mark I was clocked at
> 122mph and by the time I got to the first sweeper turn a few hundred
feet
> away I was nearing 150. While the weather conditions were perfect for
a
> high speed run there was a serious 10-15 MPH "pucker-factor cross
winds
> to contend with....I ran the Pantera as JB said up to 170-175 for a
while
> but settled back down to 155-160 through the first 45 or so MILES
because
> wind was pretty wicked at high speed. There is a section of bad road
with
> dips and moguls that gets worse every year from mile 48 to just before
the
> Canyon road...I bottomed out once on one dip and a few miles later did
it
> again....tires screeching against the car wasn't a warm fuzzy...JB
pointed
> it out to me after the run so I was lucky I didn't blow a tire on the
> dips.....so best I could do on Sunday was a 148 MPH average.
>
> The start was delayed due to a late closure of a side road gate and
by
> 8:45 when they finally started cars down the course at one minute
> intervals temps raised to 65 then 70F so weather was perfect after 3
days
> of snow, ice and rain...By the time I got to the finish line it was
> 75-80F...To the credit of Dick Drenske's NASCAR rad and other mods I
> finished my run with a 180F oil temp and a 175 water temp on the
NASCAR
> rad which is the lowest operating temps I have seen in 10 years. The
> engine was AWSOME....and ran flawlessly....thank you Russ Fulps and
thank
> you Dick Drenske for setting up the Pantera. I also want to thank the
> Brazilian Girls for the 55 gal drum of 110 Octane race gas!
> Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!!!!
>
> Later JB and Chuck came in with their Pantera to the finish line to
lots
> of applause and cheers....I think some of the Viper, Ferrari and Z06
guys
> once again got a lesson in how "OLD SCHOOL RULES".....JB and Chuck in
> spite of a fouled plug still averaged 133 MPH and I know the cross
winds
> didn't help his run either but it sure felt good to finish and then
see
> JB's yellow Pantera coming into the finish line.....
>
> RJ Gottlieb ran "Big Red" in Unlimited but the best he could do on
Sunday
> was only 168 although he has run a best of 192 average one other time.
The
> fastest car Sunday was driven by Mike Borders which was a x-winston
cup
> race car and it averaged like 187 mph which is amazing considering
cross
> winds on course...still a long way from the record of 207 average over
the
> 90 miles courseset back in '2000....just not a good day to break
records
> but a damn good day to finish.
>
> There was no more then half a dozen cars out of those 130 as old as
our
> Pantera's out of the field of 130 cars and that didn't go unnoticed at
the
> Banquet and Awards Dinner Sunday night......... neither did the fact
that
> THREE late model Corvettes including one new ZO6 DNF'd along the way.
> Corvette guys got nailed pretty hard at the awards banquet Sunday
> night...to add insult to injury one new ZO6's car alarm went off at
Ash
> Springs while he was refueling after the race and he couldn't shut it
down
> for a full 5 minutes...I finally walked over pulled out his key and
> clicked the alarm OFF...dUMB ASS!
>
> I got to see some positive results to the aero and cooling mods on
the
> Pantera. In some photos I looked at the rubber bolt on side skirts
that
> Dick had added to the Pantera and they seemed to definately help high
> speed stability....so did lowering the Pantera except for the
dips/moguls
> but that is another challenge for next year...
>
> John Schneider (Dukes of Hazard) brought the General Lee (69 Hemi
> Charger) and finished at something like 125 mph (hehe) and John, RJ,
Larry
> and I all shared a table together laughing and BS'ing at the awards
> banquet which was cool. RJ said he was impressed with our cars and
our
> enthusiasm and Friday night we got to see an advance film clip of John
> Schneiders new movie (McCormick & Company) a movie about a guy who
races
> what "looks-like" an old beat up 69 Charger which really has a 511ci
Hemi
> for rich guys pink slips... so he has a garage of like 50 high end
exotics
> he has won in illegal street racing! But in the movie he stole MY
FIRE
> idea because one of the movie's tricks shows he has a gas butane
burner
> near his window grills that shoots flames up in the air to fool his
> competitors into thinking his Dodge Charger is ON FIRE....soooooo who
do
> you think he got THAT idea from?!!!!!!!! ;-] Anyway, JB liked the
> movie....think I fell asleep and everyone had a good time.
>
> Too much more to write about but for sure I will be back next
> spring...gonna have to work on suspension travel to deal with those
road
> dips otherwise I couldn't be happier with the way the Pantera handled
and
> ran....THANKS TO JB, CHUCK, LARRY, AND ALL OF YOU FOR PUTTING UP WITH
MY
> BAD BOY ANTICS AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT.
>
> GOOD TIMES!
>
> md
>
>
>
>
> "John Bentley (jab)" <jab at cisco.com> wrote:
> The good news is we both finished. I'm sure Dennis will be chiming in
> here with a full report. I think he made 170+ a couple times and came
> in under his target speed. I came in under also at 133 average instead
> of 135, but had a blast (as always). The new tires didn't feel good
and
> I had fouled plug (I think). I need to pull them out and find out why
I
> have a miss.
>
> The weather was great and we even had a nice snow shower on Friday
> night. Another great event. Team Pantera even got an award at the
> show.
>
> I'll get some pictures posted sometime this week.
>
> JB
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [DeTomaso] silver states
>
>
> How did the "DOG" do at the race? And the others?
>
> Tom
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