[DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?

TCM Design and Drafting info at tcmdesigns.com
Sat Sep 2 01:02:32 EDT 2006 

Ok, if you need to justify that you need a 140.00 roll of duct tape on a car 
that is not going to travel at 245 mph for a split second much less 
500miles. Be my guest. I was never confused with the matter. I too have 
spent my time in Army Choppers, I know the use. I do not know of any racer 
here that has a certified 245 mph car.... Hooowaaa... One thing is for sure, 
you corrected your pricing... I am sure others that might consider using 
that tape, surely appreciates it. Now if your panties were twisted, good, 
maybe it will motivate you to push your car to 245 mph. I didn't send the 
link as a discredit, but if that is the way you took it, slow down, I am not 
carrying a 7.62x39. I am guilty of not reading all the post on the topic, so 
I stepped in at the wrong time. The last time someone told me to listen as 
you did, I divorced her. The funny thing was, it was a price comparison on 
shoes. Trying to justify spending almost $1000.00 on a freaking pair of 
shoes. I don't know you, so I could care less. To referrence a .22 in 
comparison to a 5.56 aka.223 or Oranges and Apples, come to South Florida. I 
already have the oranges you bring the apples. I will give you the best 
example you can imagine from one round to the next and the pros and cons to 
each. Don't take that as a threat, it is an invitation. I have a range that 
will allow me to shoot any round and at full auto. Now with all of that 
said, I honor Vets of all conflicts, I am assuming you are a Nam Vet. Wars, 
pollitics, religion, etc. have nothing to do with this list. It always seems 
to bring out the drama.
TCM
aka Brian
aka Gypsy
aka Grasshopper
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave McManus" <Dave at damardirect.com>
To: "'TCM Design and Drafting'" <info at tcmdesigns.com>; 
<mshortt at comcast.net>; "'Paul Timko'" <thedrol at pobox.com>
Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?


> TCM:
>
> Listen up!
> You are comparing apples to oranges! Or maybe a.22 caliber pistol to an
> M-16.
>
> Helicopter Tape is NOT Duct Tape or "Speed Tape - Racer's Tape" from the 
> web
> site you provided. I called them, they confirmed their "Speed Tape - 
> Racer's
> Tape" is Duct Tape in colors, also referred to as 200 M.P.H. tape. They do
> not handle Helicopter tape because of the cost and limited demand.
> Helicopter tape stays put on the race cars attaining speeds of 245 for 500
> miles. (Helicopter tape was developed for the Hueys in Viet Nam. These
> helicopters & the brave crews often encountered tree branches extracting 
> and
> deploying soldiers. Rotors were being destroyed hence the development of
> Helicopter Tape, duct tape would not work. We also got Super Glue from 
> Nam.)
>
> I was wrong on the cost I provided. Here is the list, provided by a friend
> who supplies race teams. Most Indy cars use this product to seal most body
> panels for qualifying set up. The tape is removed for practice & race 
> mode.
> Most teams keep the nose and radiator inlets covered with helicopter tape 
> to
> help with debris. Here is the pricing:
>
> ALL 8 MIL:
> 3M-24346(8672-1)    1" x 36 yds  $46.23/rl
> 3M-39347(8672-2)    2" x 36 yds   87.44/rl
> 3M-30753(8672-4)    4" x 36 yds  175.88/rl
> 3M-67670(8672-6)    6" x 36 yds   252.33/rl
> 3M-67671(8672-12) 12" x 36 yds  504.65/rl
> 3M-8672-18              18" x 36 yds  685.94/rl
>
>
> Here is the pricing for the paint protection:
> SCOTCHCAL PAINT PROTECTION TAPE-NON YELLOWING 6 MIL
> 3M-84802    2" X 40 yds $ 89.00/r
> 3M-84804    4" x 40 yds    174.00/rl
> 3M-84806    6" x 40 yds     304.65/rl
> 3M-84812   12" x 40 yds    609.28/rl
>
> I hope this helps clarify your confusion of Duct Tape vs. Helicopter Tape.
>
> Indy, the track rat, Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TCM Design and Drafting [mailto:info at tcmdesigns.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 10:07 AM
> To: dave at damardirect.com; mshortt at comcast.net; 'Paul Timko'
> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?
>
> http://www.designengineering.com/products.asp?m=sp&pid=43  I should hope 
> you
>
> can get all you want for that price. Check this link. You can buy it by 
> the
> box of 18 rolls for less than $140 or hell $8.00per roll
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave McManus" <Dave at damardirect.com>
> To: <mshortt at comcast.net>; "'Paul Timko'" <thedrol at pobox.com>
> Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 11:11 AM
> Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?
>
>
>> True story! I can get all you want. 2" wide roll with a diameter of
>> conventional duct tape, costs about 125-150.00/roll.
>>
>> Let me know how many rolls & desired width. It also comes in colors.
>> Earls carries it as well.
>>
>> Dave
>> Indy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mshortt at comcast.net [mailto:mshortt at comcast.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 07:48 PM
>> To: Paul Timko
>> Cc: detomaso at realbig.com
>> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?
>>
>> We used to use a product known as "Helicopter Tape" supposely used on the
>> leading edge of rotary blades.
>> Upside- it's tough as nails and takes several years (race cars-ha ha ha )
>> to
>> turn a slight yellowish tint,
>> Downside - make sure you put it where you like it, it's MF to get off,
>> heat
>> gun is the best option.
>>
>> Michael Shortt
>> 71   #1660
>> Savannah, GA
>>
>> -------------- Original message -------------- 
>> From: "Paul Timko" <thedrol at pobox.com>
>>
>>> 3M makes a thick clear plastic product for protecting your car. I think
>>> it
>>
>>> is called Scotchgard Paint Protection Film
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> #9270
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mad Dog Antenucci"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 6:42 PM
>>> Subject: [DeTomaso] Substitute for racers/gaffers tape?
>>>
>>>
>>> > Anyone on the List know where to get the material that car mfg's are
>> using
>>> > to put on new cars that are being shipped to protect them from damage?
>>> >
>>> > In the last year or so I've seen it on the top and sides of NEW cars
>>> > being transported on carriers.....Looks like its easy on and off and a
>>> > good substitute for front end and bottom rear quarter panels to 
>>> > protect
>>> > from the usual rock damage during competition.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Mad Dawg Antenucci
>>> > Team Pantera Racing
>>> > The 1st & still the only vintage race team in open road racing
>>> > www.teampanteraracing.com
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