[DeTomaso] Campy's

[Larry - Ohio Time Corp.]

Hi Chuck,

When we talk about offset bushings are they for the caster or camber? I was 
thinking they were the ones with the offset center that allowed you set the 
camber.

Thanks

Larry (always thinks differently) - Cleveland

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <cengles at cox.net>
To: "Will Kooiman" <wkooiman at earthlink.net>
Cc: <detomaso at realbig.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Campy's


>
> Dear Will,
>
> FWIW, in the *old* days before offset bushings, Dennis Quella described 
> the procedure to modify them: use a hacksay on the poly bushing and then 
> compensate for the removed bit with appropriately sized fender washers.
>
> That is what I did with the first set on the first car. I believe I got 3 
> degrees positive with that first attempt. With the second car, I applied 
> the "some is good; more is better". I was a bit more aggressive with the 
> hacksaw and used one or two (??? been a long time) more washers. Voila! 
> Pantera number two runs *five degrees positive caster*.
>
> So, if the offsets are too pricey or if you want the "joy of do it 
> yourself" (?), then five degrees are only a hacksaw and a few washers 
> away.........
>
> Your mileage may vary, Chuck Engles
>
>
>
> ---- Will Kooiman <wkooiman at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>I already have the Quella bushings with the hex center. They are a vast
>>improvement over the stock bushings, but they're not offset.
>>
>>I'm probably going to install his bushings for now, but I may do the 
>>offset
>>bushings later on. Once the original bushing shells are out, changing
>>bushings should be relatively easy.
>>
>>Will.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com
>>[mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On Behalf Of John Maffeo
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:52 PM
>>To: Will Kooiman; Pantera List
>>Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Campy's
>>
>>
>>Will,
>>
>>Are you going to get the offset front bushings? They seem to be highly
>>recommended from those who have them.
>>
>>John
>>
>>Will Kooiman <wkooiman at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>I have 8" Campy's on the rear of my car. They are powder coated, and look
>>really nice. I got them from Hall 3 years ago. The 295-50-15's were worn
>>out, so I replaced them a month ago. This is my 3rd set of tires in 3
>>years. The first two were BFG Radial T/A's. These are Firestone
>>Firehawk's.
>>
>>The fronts were rattle can painted 7" Campy's. They look nice enough when
>>the paint is fresh. The tires were 225-50-15 BFG G-force KD's. I recently
>>noticed the cord/belt showing on the inside of the driver's tire, so I
>>figured it was that time. Only what to do?
>>
>>I want to switch to 16/17 Campy clones, but that's mid to late 2007 - not
>>late 2006.
>>
>>I started to have my other pair of 8" Campy's repaired and painted, but 
>>that
>>was going to be $250. I gave my wheels to the wheel repair guy, but that
>>fell through when he couldn't find magnesium welding rods. So..., I 
>>ordered
>>another pair of 8" wheels from Hall.
>>
>>The new fronts are Dunlop 8000's. I don't know if the old tires were that
>>bad or if the 8" rims make that big of a difference, but the shaking and
>>bump steer is gone. My rack is lowered per Mike Drew instructions. The
>>tires/rims make a huge difference with the driving pleasure. It is easier
>>to steer. It brakes better. At slow speeds it almost feels like it has
>>power steering. It's pulling a little to the left, but that'll soon be
>>corrected.
>>
>>Next up:
>>
>>1. Replace front a-arm bushings.
>>2. Replace front ball joints.
>>3. Install camber locks.
>>4. Full 4-wheel alignment.
>>5. Enjoy.
>>
>>(with several honey-do's sprinkled throughout)
>>
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