MSD BOX I CAN'T THROW AWAY Re: [DeTomaso] Welding

[Mad Dog Antenucci]

To be honest with you this is now a non-issue for me ;-]> but for you old school guys let me say Thomas I've run 36 open road races and at least that many open track events and NEVER had a MSD box fail during a race.......BUT;
having said that as Forest and many others have said before when they do fail they seem to fail at the worst times. Want to know about Crane boxes?
BJ Filarski had a Crane box which DID FAIL at the Bonneville 100 ORR a couple years ago.....and he couldn't find a replacement Crane box anywhere in Wendover!!!
fwiw

MD

Thomas Tornblom <Thomas.Tornblom at Hax.SE> wrote: Mad Dog Antenucci wrote:
> Well said Forest...planning to do that myself this winter....BTW, I heard about someone who got tired of replacing failed MSD boxes and started rebuilding them for friends who race....Has anyone heard about this guy or anyone else who rebuilds  ignitions?

If these boxes are so fragile, and fails that often, why are people 
installing them in the first place?

What about the Crane ignition boxes? At least they appear to be better 
built:

http://www.cranecams.com/?show=article&id=12

Thomas

> 
> MD 
> 
> Veloce  wrote: Chuck,
> 
> Now might be the time to add the second MSD box and wire it so it can be 
> switched on the fly, so to speak. I have had my MSD for several years with 
> absolutely no problems - but one of these days I will install the second box 
> to gain the security of redundancy. I have replaced MSD boxes for several 
> friend because of welding or some other high-voltage disturbance with the 
> MSD circuitry. As Mike says, while the box may not fail immediately they 
> have a much greater probability of failing later - at the Most Inopportune 
> Time.
> 
> regards
> Forest Majors
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charles Engles" 
> To: 
> Cc: ; "Charles McCall" 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Welding
> 
> 
>> Dear Mike and Charlie,
>>
>>             You wrote:
>>
>>> What you did is a very bad idea.  And in fact MSD specifically warns
>> against
>>> doing what you did in their literature, because the little electronic
>> gizmos
>>> inside the magic MSD box are very fragile.  Failures attributed to 
>>> welding
>> on
>>> the car normally aren't instaneous.  Instead, six months from now you 
>>> will
>> be
>>> zooming down the road and the thing will fizzle out and you'll find
>> yourself
>>> wondering why.
>>>
>>> While MSD is very good about warranty service, I believe one of the first
>>> questions they ask is, "did you weld on the car with the MSD still
>> connected to
>>> the wiring system?"  They may refuse to repair it for free in that case,
>>> although they will still repair it.
>> $$$$$$$$   Ah, well.   It won't be the first time that I've field-tested
>> various automotive components and I've had some unpleasantly expensive
>> results.....nothing to do at this point, but to press on.     *Next* time,
>> I'll disconnect the darn thing.
>>
>>          Optimisticly yours,  Chuck Engles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
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