[DeTomaso] Cleveland vrs Windsor

[Mad Dog Antenucci]

Crazy Dan,
JB is right.... you should be running in 160-180 group in May 2007 for the following reasons;

YOU have no fear
YOU have no known relatives
YOU can do it. 
Get the beast or the Winged Warrior ready for battle....stop talking about it...your starting to sound like most of the slackers on this list ;-]

MD

Dan Courtney <dfcex at pacbell.net> wrote: JB,

"The Winged Warrior" has been officially retired from ORR runs and other
competition events following 4 SS finishes (and 3 blown motors)and the
acquisition of "The Beast".
"The Beast" tested well past 8,000 rpms on Hwy 318 last May and will be run
at 160 mph+ IF they let me.
"The Winged Warrior", however, will just be a cruiser and will not become
engaged in competition (unless, of course, someone disrespects her by
squeeling a tire in her proximity, honks a horn three times, revs an engine
or waves a flag - in which case the situation will be out of my hands)
Hmmm - maybe I should go 4 bolt.

Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: John Bentley (jab) [mailto:jab at cisco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:09 PM
To: Dan Courtney
Cc: detomaso at realbig.com; Mad Dog Antenucci
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Cleveland vrs Windsor


Dan,

Just FYI, the reason the 4-bolt main cap was added was the main bearing
bolts were too close to the main bearing bore which allowed the outboard
part of the cap to lift off the saddle when load moved from side to side
and it was evident by fretting of the saddle prior to failure.  This
type of failure only occurred at very high RPM.

If you plan on spending a lot of time at high RPM (~>6000 RPM) maybe the
4-bolt block is worth the added cost....?  Maybe if we could talk you
into some 180+ MPH ORR time, that 4-bolt block would pay off!?!?!? ;)

JB




----- Original Message -----
From: "John Bentley (jab)" 
To: "Dan Courtney" ; ;

Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:17 AM
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] Cleveland vrs Windsor


Dan,

I wouldn't go out of my way to get a 4-bolt block.  You would be much
better off buying a local 2-bolt block rather than a 4-bolt far from
view.  Don't do the sight-unseen thing without sonic data.  The biggest
problem is like you say, shipping costs.  Even if the guy gives a money
back guarantee, he won't cover shipping!  Have someone local check it
out.

JB



-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Courtney
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 5:02 PM
To: JDeRyke at aol.com; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: Re: [DeTomaso] Cleveland vrs Windsor

Jack,

The shop will be tearing it down and magging parts later this week.
This shop is telling me the Cleveland four bolt is no big deal, smaller
bolts and the drilling actually weakens the cast. They are endorsing a 2

bolt main Cleveland, as they say the Cleveland's hardly ever have main
bearing issues.
The deceased engine has part numbers D2AE-CA and the heads are D7AE.

Dan

Dan F. Courtney


Excalibur Commercial Real Estate Services
La Jolla, CA

Phone (858) 551-5455
Fax (858) 551-5456


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