[DeTomaso] A/C hose question

[David & Marilyn Bell]

I don't know about where you are, but here in Houston you can drop the hoses
off at any OReillys or NAPA and have your brand new o-ring fittings cut off
and then have new old-style flair fittings swedged on.  You'll loose a
couple of inches of length on each hose doing that but you shouldn't have to
replace the entire system.  There are also such things as flair too-ring
(r-12 to r-134) couplers, though that would double the number of possible
leak sources in your system.

Surely someone in Europe can change out AC fittings on hoses.  If not, send
the hoses back to the vendor and get another set with flairs.


Dave Bell

-----Original Message-----
From: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com]On
Behalf Of Charles McCall
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:18 AM
To: forestg at att.net; detomaso at realbig.com
Subject: RE: [DeTomaso] A/C hose question

OK, so general consensus is that o-rings seal better than flared fittings.
But to change over to o-rings if my car is equipped for flare fittings means
changing the compressor, the evaporator, condensor, etc, since all those
things are set up for flared fittings?

This would be good advice if starting from scratch, but if you are trying to
replace existing hoses you are kind of stuck, right?

Thanks to everyone for the answers...
Charles McCall
1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
"Raising Pantera Awareness across Europe"
http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/


-----Mensaje original-----
De: detomaso-bounces at realbig.com [mailto:detomaso-bounces at realbig.com] En
nombre de forestg at att.net
Enviado el: Saturday, 16 December, 2006 1:11 AM
Para: detomaso at realbig.com
Asunto: Re: [DeTomaso] A/C hose question

The flared fittings are what was used originally with R-12. The o-ring
fittings are what are used with R-134. I would use o-ring fittings wherever
you can as they seal better, even for R12.
Forest

-------------- Original message from "Charles McCall"
<CharlesMcCall at telefonica.net>: --------------


> Hi all,
>
> Last weekend we held the first ever Spanish DeTomaso Club Tech
> Session, assisted by special guest Mike Drew.
>
> The new rear a-arms went on without any significant problems, the new
> offset bushings went on up front relatively easily... I haven't had
> the car aligned yet, so I am waiting to report on handling changes..
>
> We pulled the old A/C hoses off and went to install the new ones,
> ordered from a prominent Pantera supplier. It was immediately obvious
> that that wasn't going to happen - the connectors are completely
different.
>
> The most likely explanation is that I have R12 and the vendor sent me
> connections for R134, or vice versa. I ordered R12, since that is what
> I imagined came stock on my GT5-S. But someone told me that they
> thought the fittings on my car were for R134. I'd feel silly yelling
> at the vendor and then finding out that they sent me exactly what I
ordered.
>
> Could someone please look at the photo at
> http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/Misc/Hoses
> and tell me which is R134 and which is R12?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Charles McCall
> 1985 DeTomaso Pantera GT5-S #9375
> "Raising Pantera Awareness across Europe"
> http://members.aol.com/PanteraGT5S1985/
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